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Welcome to this official website for the "CAL Chat" podcast – the show where we discuss our favorite Al-Anon and Alateen Conference Approved Literature and how it has improved our lives!  You can also visit my "CAL Chat" blog at, get literature updates at, as well as see recovery literature in a new way at and

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CAL Chat

Dec 27, 2018

Terry Anne (in part 3 of 5 of Episode 12) sums up the new book "Intimacy in Alcoholic Relationships" (B-33) in 3 words!  I reveal my favorite sections from pages 18-19 and the story of loss on page 118 that still stays with me.


  • "...we’re loved more for who we really are than anyone...

Dec 27, 2018

In part 2 of 5 (of Episode 12), Terry Anne elaborates on communication from Chapter 3 of the brand new book "Intimacy in Alcoholic Relationships" (B-33).  She explains how she has used this book in her personal life in recognizing and moving through old behaviors.  We also discuss how labels and biases can hinder...

Dec 27, 2018

How can it be easier to share about sex?  How can spiritual solutions be brought into intimate situations?  What new upcoming Al-Anon literature is on the horizon?  Terry Anne shares, in part 1 of 5 of Episode 12, about the brand new book "Intimacy in Alcoholic Relationships" (B-33) that came out in 2018 at Al-Anon’s...

Jan 18, 2017

In part 3 of 5 (of Episode 7) find out what two words I discovered are inter-related after creating an index for "Reaching For Personal Freedom" (P-92).  Mark talks about how he used to be before he came into the Al-Anon program and explores what I call a “big ticket item!”


  • "...I think...

Jan 18, 2017

Freedom is specifically discussed with Mark in part 2 of 5 (of Episode 7) from the workbook "Reaching For Personal Freedom" (P-92).  He compares this book to other Al-Anon workbooks, explains how it differs, and I reveal a surprise  I’ve created an index for this book!  (It can be downloaded as *bonus content* at...